‘By Design,’ episode 3: Why Trump just hired Airbnb’s cofounder, Figma’s Wall Street arrival, and the Cracker Barrel culture war

It’s been a big month for design.

• President Trump just created the National Design Studio and tapped Airbnb cofounder Joe Gebbia to lead the charge, adding to his government work portfolio that includes helping on Elon Musk’s DOGE. 
• Cracker Barrel has offended or enraged just about everyone with its new logo.
• Meat is back, in case you didn’t know. 
• Figma hit Wall Street with a bang. 

On this episode of By Design, hosts Liz Stinson and Mark Wilson give the rundown of the latest news and have a conversation with Figma chief product officer Yuhki Yamashita just after the company’s IPO. 

Where does Figma go from here? What does its product lead think about design in the age of AI and vibe coding? Well, you’ll have to listen to find out. 

Then, we’ll round things out with the best and worst designs of the month as Teenage Engineering, Apple, A24, and AOL battle for the crown (or not).  

Listen now on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you get podcasts.